1 00:00:11,660 --> 00:00:41,669 you 2 00:00:45,669 --> 00:00:43,990 like tonight we have the great pleasure 3 00:00:48,490 --> 00:00:45,679 of introducing David Hadrian from 4 00:00:53,349 --> 00:00:48,500 Birmingham UFO group he's been 5 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:53,359 investigating UFO cases and related 6 00:01:00,160 --> 00:00:57,890 things since 2009 we said I 2007 2007 7 00:01:03,069 --> 00:01:00,170 running the group since 2009 yeah 8 00:01:06,389 --> 00:01:03,079 fermium UFO group was started in 2007 9 00:01:08,170 --> 00:01:06,399 and he's been involved since 2009 so on 10 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:08,180 tonight is going to give us a talk on 11 00:01:13,270 --> 00:01:10,570 the case that you investigated in vista 12 00:01:15,460 --> 00:01:13,280 which is entitled the bicester abduction 13 00:01:23,020 --> 00:01:15,470 case okay so you put your hands together 14 00:01:54,910 --> 00:01:23,030 peaceful David this ain't got a little 15 00:01:54,920 --> 00:02:22,930 and 16 00:02:22,940 --> 00:03:05,610 Oh 17 00:03:12,910 --> 00:03:10,990 alright let's get this underway my 18 00:03:15,730 --> 00:03:12,920 fingers cross that's going to work ok 19 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:15,740 button good evening old good evening 20 00:03:21,190 --> 00:03:19,610 Swansea so lovely to me down here drop 21 00:03:23,290 --> 00:03:21,200 it on down to a lovely wash weather 22 00:03:25,090 --> 00:03:23,300 actually early in the day was nice and 23 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:25,100 bright wasn't it but it's slowly turn 24 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:27,290 back to normal down here but my my 25 00:03:31,690 --> 00:03:28,490 wife's family from here they here 26 00:03:34,090 --> 00:03:31,700 tonight to her to see my talk and it's 27 00:03:38,100 --> 00:03:34,100 really great to be down here to talk you 28 00:03:42,370 --> 00:03:38,110 tonight about this case of investigated 29 00:03:44,380 --> 00:03:42,380 so yes my name is Don Hogan and I'm the 30 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:44,390 chairman and lead investigator for 31 00:03:49,390 --> 00:03:47,450 Birmingham UFO group and as eminent said 32 00:03:51,850 --> 00:03:49,400 the group's been running since late two 33 00:03:53,230 --> 00:03:51,860 thousand seven started by a couple of 34 00:03:55,390 --> 00:03:53,240 guys in Birmingham there Craig and Marc 35 00:03:57,370 --> 00:03:55,400 and I was one of the first members to 36 00:03:59,590 --> 00:03:57,380 sign up because I are brilliant as I as 37 00:04:00,520 --> 00:03:59,600 a UFO broke within reach of my house and 38 00:04:02,650 --> 00:04:00,530 I can go along and meet like-minded 39 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:02,660 people have a bit of a chat and 40 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:05,090 everything and it wasn't long before 41 00:04:08,770 --> 00:04:06,410 they took me on as the official 42 00:04:11,950 --> 00:04:08,780 investigator for the group due to my 43 00:04:13,150 --> 00:04:11,960 passion and interest in the subject it's 44 00:04:15,220 --> 00:04:13,160 something I'd always thought about doing 45 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:15,230 for many years just being directly 46 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:17,090 involved and going speaking with people 47 00:04:20,620 --> 00:04:18,890 on the front lines with this and hearing 48 00:04:22,810 --> 00:04:20,630 about real experiences from people and 49 00:04:24,850 --> 00:04:22,820 it's something I just jumped on with the 50 00:04:26,770 --> 00:04:24,860 groats rally so I started writing 51 00:04:29,020 --> 00:04:26,780 reports to the group and then in the 52 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:29,030 summer 2009 they handed over the running 53 00:04:33,790 --> 00:04:31,130 of blue fog to me as well and have been 54 00:04:35,590 --> 00:04:33,800 the chairman of that ever since where we 55 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:35,600 hold monthly meetings in North 56 00:04:41,770 --> 00:04:39,050 Birmingham where we get various speakers 57 00:04:43,690 --> 00:04:41,780 to talk some which are here tonight so 58 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:43,700 hi Alan everybody this island at the 59 00:04:48,670 --> 00:04:47,090 back super bear your follow just and we 60 00:04:50,230 --> 00:04:48,680 also showed documentaries and films of 61 00:04:52,570 --> 00:04:50,240 that sort of thing and I really like to 62 00:04:54,310 --> 00:04:52,580 promote the kind of an community spirit 63 00:04:56,140 --> 00:04:54,320 of these things just like you guys 64 00:04:57,670 --> 00:04:56,150 coming down tonight because a lot of 65 00:04:59,500 --> 00:04:57,680 people these days are kind of stuck on 66 00:05:01,420 --> 00:04:59,510 their computers and just checking out 67 00:05:02,710 --> 00:05:01,430 the subject via the internet and it's 68 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:02,720 really nice when people just come 69 00:05:08,969 --> 00:05:05,450 together to meet up properly and have a 70 00:05:11,409 --> 00:05:08,979 chat about this fascinating subject so 71 00:05:11,620 --> 00:05:11,419 yeah I mean I've investigated hundreds 72 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:11,630 you 73 00:05:16,510 --> 00:05:13,490 fo sightings over the years probably 74 00:05:18,220 --> 00:05:16,520 over a thousand now until and I'm 75 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:18,230 getting more more known as being 76 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:20,450 involved in the contact aspect of the 77 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:22,810 subject and the so far investigate about 78 00:05:27,340 --> 00:05:25,370 250 or so contact cases from around the 79 00:05:30,100 --> 00:05:27,350 world over half of which have been a 80 00:05:33,220 --> 00:05:30,110 uk-based but have also covered cases as 81 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:33,230 far as Australia and it's incredible 82 00:05:37,300 --> 00:05:34,610 there's the similarities that you get 83 00:05:38,500 --> 00:05:37,310 between those cases and a bit because of 84 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:38,510 my interest in that particular aspect 85 00:05:42,850 --> 00:05:41,090 and content these are now coming to me 86 00:05:44,260 --> 00:05:42,860 so that have to go around searching for 87 00:05:45,580 --> 00:05:44,270 people and so have you had an adoption 88 00:05:48,190 --> 00:05:45,590 or anything they're coming to me 89 00:05:50,290 --> 00:05:48,200 directly off word of mouth and showing 90 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:50,300 their experiences with me quite a lot of 91 00:05:54,460 --> 00:05:51,890 the time those experiences turn into a 92 00:05:56,260 --> 00:05:54,470 very detailed case reports they can all 93 00:05:59,530 --> 00:05:56,270 be found freely available on the blue 94 00:06:01,300 --> 00:05:59,540 fog website other times it's very very 95 00:06:03,610 --> 00:06:01,310 personal to the individual and they just 96 00:06:05,020 --> 00:06:03,620 want to keep it to themselves really so 97 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:05,030 we just have it have a chat and help 98 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:07,370 them out and come to terms with what 99 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:09,770 with what's happening to them and I've 100 00:06:13,390 --> 00:06:10,610 also worked with the number of 101 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:13,400 hypnotherapists over the years on 102 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:15,050 hypnotic regressions of contour tease 103 00:06:20,830 --> 00:06:18,890 it's a very very controversial angle of 104 00:06:23,110 --> 00:06:20,840 the subject due to the introduction of 105 00:06:25,510 --> 00:06:23,120 false memories which can sometimes 106 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:25,520 happen but it's still a way of exploring 107 00:06:30,310 --> 00:06:27,890 the cases further than what the 108 00:06:32,290 --> 00:06:30,320 individual consciously remembers so 109 00:06:35,020 --> 00:06:32,300 where the options open there you know 110 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:35,030 more than welcome for them to do that so 111 00:06:38,860 --> 00:06:36,050 tonight I'm going to talk with you about 112 00:06:41,230 --> 00:06:38,870 this incredible case the abyss contact 113 00:06:44,650 --> 00:06:41,240 case and the case they first came to me 114 00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:44,660 the summer of 2014 so yeah that's 115 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:46,310 something a summer brief look at how the 116 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:48,890 investigation went on this one so 117 00:06:53,740 --> 00:06:51,890 initial correspondence came from Dave 118 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:53,750 contacted me via phone after checking 119 00:06:59,830 --> 00:06:57,530 out one of my other talks on on youtube 120 00:07:02,680 --> 00:06:59,840 I write regularly for UFO truth magazine 121 00:07:04,570 --> 00:07:02,690 and the yearly UFO truth magazine 122 00:07:07,900 --> 00:07:04,580 conference I was speaking at that 123 00:07:10,030 --> 00:07:07,910 several years ago and Dave saw that 124 00:07:11,740 --> 00:07:10,040 video and got in touch and said it you 125 00:07:13,510 --> 00:07:11,750 know I've had some interesting things 126 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:13,520 that happens in my life and I'd like to 127 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:16,010 go over over them with him so I headed 128 00:07:19,300 --> 00:07:17,450 down to business and I'll fight other 129 00:07:21,790 --> 00:07:19,310 place lovely place in the Oxfordshire 130 00:07:23,350 --> 00:07:21,800 headed down there for the day and we 131 00:07:25,670 --> 00:07:23,360 just basically just had a chat 132 00:07:27,950 --> 00:07:25,680 for many many hours about all sorts of 133 00:07:29,390 --> 00:07:27,960 experiences you had visited a number of 134 00:07:32,570 --> 00:07:29,400 different locations to take photographs 135 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:32,580 and that sort of thing when I got back 136 00:07:37,010 --> 00:07:34,290 up Birmingham started rising the report 137 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:37,020 it was extremely in depth is probably 138 00:07:41,330 --> 00:07:39,410 over 200 pages long I think and 139 00:07:43,129 --> 00:07:41,340 everything you hear about tonight so 140 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:43,139 everything I'm going to cover and many 141 00:07:46,010 --> 00:07:44,970 other experiences are in that report so 142 00:07:47,900 --> 00:07:46,020 you know if you're interested in what 143 00:07:49,970 --> 00:07:47,910 here tonight and you want to hidden him 144 00:07:52,250 --> 00:07:49,980 read more just to go and check out check 145 00:07:54,140 --> 00:07:52,260 out the report that went up probably 146 00:07:58,340 --> 00:07:54,150 about nine months later it took a while 147 00:08:01,220 --> 00:07:58,350 to put together after that I did I add 148 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:01,230 talk on UFOs in the music industry so 149 00:08:06,290 --> 00:08:04,650 the UFO themed bands and musicians have 150 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:06,300 had experiences and then released songs 151 00:08:11,990 --> 00:08:09,570 based on those experiences and it's it 152 00:08:14,420 --> 00:08:12,000 very relevant to to get Dave and his 153 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:14,430 band cosmos is to come and play as part 154 00:08:18,980 --> 00:08:15,690 of that event so they came up to 155 00:08:21,170 --> 00:08:18,990 Birmingham and played a gig and you'll 156 00:08:22,580 --> 00:08:21,180 see the title of my talk the cosmos is 157 00:08:26,420 --> 00:08:22,590 connection and you'll find out what 158 00:08:27,620 --> 00:08:26,430 that's all about in a bit I then headed 159 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:27,630 back to bicester on numerous other 160 00:08:31,610 --> 00:08:29,010 occasions to continue the investigation 161 00:08:32,839 --> 00:08:31,620 and just really just socialize with the 162 00:08:34,730 --> 00:08:32,849 guys because they you know we've formed 163 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:34,740 kind of lasting friendship and nothing 164 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:38,010 there on stage a place in in Oxford and 165 00:08:41,659 --> 00:08:40,169 and they're going for strength of 166 00:08:44,990 --> 00:08:41,669 strength and the store playing gigs 167 00:08:47,630 --> 00:08:45,000 regularly down there s'okay suspect says 168 00:08:49,310 --> 00:08:47,640 Dave which day for both Dave I said yeah 169 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:49,320 there is Dave Hunt there I don't know 170 00:08:53,750 --> 00:08:52,050 who this man in black a geyser no idea 171 00:08:55,220 --> 00:08:53,760 so seven look at the aspects of this 172 00:08:58,460 --> 00:08:55,230 case and why I think it's such an 173 00:09:00,500 --> 00:08:58,470 important case it's extremely detailed 174 00:09:02,900 --> 00:09:00,510 and it's occurred over a long period of 175 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:02,910 time now in some contact experiences the 176 00:09:06,650 --> 00:09:04,410 individual has one or two encounters 177 00:09:07,790 --> 00:09:06,660 over a short period of time and then 178 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:07,800 nothing else for the rest of their life 179 00:09:12,230 --> 00:09:10,410 but other cases we calmly term repeater 180 00:09:15,410 --> 00:09:12,240 cases the individual has their 181 00:09:17,570 --> 00:09:15,420 experiences always from birth for from 182 00:09:20,540 --> 00:09:17,580 very young age and that's how this case 183 00:09:22,610 --> 00:09:20,550 is extremely detailed there's 184 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:22,620 testimonial evidence we've got from from 185 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:25,530 many witnesses and it's interesting that 186 00:09:31,220 --> 00:09:28,650 in a lot of the cases there have been 187 00:09:33,110 --> 00:09:31,230 other people present so it's not all 188 00:09:35,900 --> 00:09:33,120 just taking the testimony of one person 189 00:09:36,530 --> 00:09:35,910 and this is just a massive web of 190 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:36,540 individuals 191 00:09:40,790 --> 00:09:38,730 involved in this case that involved most 192 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:40,800 members of his family his closest 193 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:42,330 friends and and other friends and 194 00:09:47,870 --> 00:09:44,730 associates many of which I've spoken 195 00:09:49,700 --> 00:09:47,880 with all of which back up the the 196 00:09:52,490 --> 00:09:49,710 experiences that I'm going to tell you 197 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:52,500 about this evening so that's quite read 198 00:09:56,150 --> 00:09:54,330 you get that in a lot of cases it's just 199 00:09:58,070 --> 00:09:56,160 a kind of just had to take one person's 200 00:10:00,890 --> 00:09:58,080 word for it and you can either take it 201 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:00,900 or leave it but with this it's the 202 00:10:04,730 --> 00:10:02,850 amount of people that we've got to give 203 00:10:06,710 --> 00:10:04,740 testimony there is some physical 204 00:10:08,930 --> 00:10:06,720 photographic evidence involved with this 205 00:10:10,190 --> 00:10:08,940 case not so much but a bit in places and 206 00:10:14,180 --> 00:10:10,200 I'll take you through some of that 207 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:14,190 tonight and also yeah and absolutely 208 00:10:17,780 --> 00:10:16,530 clear emotional impacts on the people 209 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:17,790 involved with this this is a deeply 210 00:10:24,380 --> 00:10:20,130 touched Dave his friends and his family 211 00:10:27,230 --> 00:10:24,390 in in many ways and really changed their 212 00:10:30,950 --> 00:10:27,240 lives and you'll hear more about that as 213 00:10:32,510 --> 00:10:30,960 we as we progress with this so we're 214 00:10:35,450 --> 00:10:32,520 going to start now with with David's 215 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:35,460 experiences I don't whether you want to 216 00:10:39,860 --> 00:10:37,050 break at the halfway point on our time 217 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:39,870 then George want me to split it the half 218 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:43,410 year yes I'm not yeah so yeah we go 219 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:44,850 through experiences and we'll get about 220 00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:46,770 halfway through no you know no we'll 221 00:10:50,690 --> 00:10:48,690 have a little break through this but 222 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:50,700 yeah his experiences did actually start 223 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:52,530 about age too but this this one took 224 00:11:01,720 --> 00:10:56,490 place 1979 is a state and is at a play 225 00:11:04,580 --> 00:11:01,730 group in London refused to go to right 226 00:11:06,530 --> 00:11:04,590 so essentially let me take you through 227 00:11:08,590 --> 00:11:06,540 what happened so that the playgroup he 228 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:08,600 goes down there every single week and I 229 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:11,130 wonder a plague of idiot decided to use 230 00:11:15,290 --> 00:11:13,050 the toilet so it tells the attendant 231 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:15,300 they're used to go to the loop when he 232 00:11:19,010 --> 00:11:17,610 enters the toilets there's some figures 233 00:11:20,660 --> 00:11:19,020 standing there now obviously has only 234 00:11:22,490 --> 00:11:20,670 three years old he doesn't have too much 235 00:11:25,100 --> 00:11:22,500 recollection of this but he remembers 236 00:11:26,900 --> 00:11:25,110 their being men told people standing 237 00:11:30,980 --> 00:11:26,910 there and there were wendys a blue 238 00:11:32,990 --> 00:11:30,990 colored and sort of outfit and that's 239 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:33,000 all he remembers next thing he knows 240 00:11:40,460 --> 00:11:37,050 he's quite far away elsewhere in London 241 00:11:43,010 --> 00:11:40,470 and several hours have passed back two 242 00:11:45,500 --> 00:11:43,020 hours and he's basically picked up is 243 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:45,510 somebody on the street and spots him on 244 00:11:49,570 --> 00:11:48,450 his own calls the police and they get 245 00:11:51,670 --> 00:11:49,580 involved and then 246 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:51,680 they find out who he is and get the 247 00:11:56,170 --> 00:11:53,450 parents and eventually he's kind of 248 00:11:57,490 --> 00:11:56,180 reunited with it with his parents so 249 00:12:00,430 --> 00:11:57,500 yeah let's say let's have a look at some 250 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:00,440 of the aspects of this incident in more 251 00:12:05,050 --> 00:12:02,810 detail Shelley well special these are 252 00:12:09,180 --> 00:12:05,060 these men lead lives of men but these 253 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:09,190 men and David encountered okay so the 254 00:12:14,830 --> 00:12:12,170 the figures were standing wearing these 255 00:12:16,830 --> 00:12:14,840 sort of light blue tight-fitting outfits 256 00:12:19,630 --> 00:12:16,840 that's what that's what he describes as 257 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:19,640 interesting that that he remembers that 258 00:12:25,660 --> 00:12:21,770 because that actually fits quite closely 259 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:25,670 with clothing that a particular type or 260 00:12:32,110 --> 00:12:29,810 species if you will of being where many 261 00:12:34,150 --> 00:12:32,120 of you will be familiar with this for 262 00:12:35,590 --> 00:12:34,160 those they were aren't one of the the 263 00:12:37,450 --> 00:12:35,600 beings that's commonly reported by 264 00:12:39,700 --> 00:12:37,460 people they're commonly termed the 265 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:39,710 Nordics or sometimes called humanoids or 266 00:12:44,530 --> 00:12:42,410 played ians because some people either 267 00:12:47,410 --> 00:12:44,540 from the Pleiades star system so the 268 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:47,420 comp lady ins but essentially they're 269 00:12:53,290 --> 00:12:49,610 very very very very humanoid looking 270 00:12:55,780 --> 00:12:53,300 quite perfect kind of features and the 271 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:55,790 usual got pale or white hair usually 272 00:12:59,890 --> 00:12:57,770 comes shoulder length and the wear these 273 00:13:02,710 --> 00:12:59,900 kind of type things or jumpsuits usually 274 00:13:03,850 --> 00:13:02,720 either blue or silver there's other case 275 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:03,860 of investigated where they've been 276 00:13:09,250 --> 00:13:06,170 wearing this kind of white road when the 277 00:13:11,380 --> 00:13:09,260 scene aboard craft these beings are 278 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:11,390 reported very regularly and a lot of 279 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:12,890 people think that they were reported a 280 00:13:18,010 --> 00:13:14,930 lot back in the 60s and 70s and they 281 00:13:19,300 --> 00:13:18,020 look all David Bowie style and and and 282 00:13:20,710 --> 00:13:19,310 they do it they do actually look like 283 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:20,720 that and the still reported like that 284 00:13:24,460 --> 00:13:22,730 today and they're seen almost as 285 00:13:27,550 --> 00:13:24,470 commonly as some of the other sort of 286 00:13:29,950 --> 00:13:27,560 types of beings or entities that are 287 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:29,960 commonly reported so still a very major 288 00:13:36,130 --> 00:13:34,850 part of contact so it manages to get 289 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:36,140 outside the play group without being 290 00:13:40,510 --> 00:13:38,090 spotted so the teachers right there with 291 00:13:42,910 --> 00:13:40,520 the other children just just right next 292 00:13:44,860 --> 00:13:42,920 to whether whether losses and it seems 293 00:13:46,930 --> 00:13:44,870 you can see what he'd be able to do that 294 00:13:48,940 --> 00:13:46,940 walk outside around the outside of the 295 00:13:50,620 --> 00:13:48,950 playgroup where some very tall fences 296 00:13:52,330 --> 00:13:50,630 this isn't the actual fences but it's a 297 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:52,340 isn't a representation of them that we 298 00:13:56,350 --> 00:13:54,410 found online they says a match to what 299 00:13:57,670 --> 00:13:56,360 the play we've had around it essentially 300 00:13:58,960 --> 00:13:57,680 obviously the children were locked in 301 00:14:00,280 --> 00:13:58,970 there they don't want random members of 302 00:14:03,049 --> 00:14:00,290 the public walking in while the plague 303 00:14:05,809 --> 00:14:03,059 written in place so how on earth did 304 00:14:09,859 --> 00:14:05,819 get over these are huge fences its 305 00:14:11,839 --> 00:14:09,869 figures old room so this is his journey 306 00:14:13,129 --> 00:14:11,849 hope you can see that the back right 307 00:14:15,739 --> 00:14:13,139 this is London as the River Thames 308 00:14:17,509 --> 00:14:15,749 flowing on there and this is the Aponte 309 00:14:19,909 --> 00:14:17,519 here when they like that that's the 310 00:14:21,859 --> 00:14:19,919 position of the playgroup and this is 311 00:14:25,519 --> 00:14:21,869 where he was found roughly two hours 312 00:14:27,559 --> 00:14:25,529 later so it disappeared and no idea two 313 00:14:30,079 --> 00:14:27,569 hours later bang who's there it picked 314 00:14:31,969 --> 00:14:30,089 up on the street and obviously that's 315 00:14:35,239 --> 00:14:31,979 quite a distance for a three-year-old to 316 00:14:37,189 --> 00:14:35,249 walk yes it was a two hours yeah but 317 00:14:38,929 --> 00:14:37,199 really can a figure I'll really wonder 318 00:14:41,059 --> 00:14:38,939 and London bounced off across numerous 319 00:14:42,439 --> 00:14:41,069 bridges across the river thames and what 320 00:14:44,329 --> 00:14:42,449 that sort of distance the three years 321 00:14:47,629 --> 00:14:44,339 old without being picked up by anybody 322 00:14:49,819 --> 00:14:47,639 it just seems inconceivable to me during 323 00:14:51,589 --> 00:14:49,829 that time is not supported by anybody so 324 00:14:53,479 --> 00:14:51,599 if he was walking surely somebody would 325 00:14:56,529 --> 00:14:53,489 have seen the kid wandering around on 326 00:14:59,179 --> 00:14:56,539 their own and picked him up button it 327 00:15:00,469 --> 00:14:59,189 and also dad's got no recollection of 328 00:15:01,909 --> 00:15:00,479 this journey taking place all he 329 00:15:03,829 --> 00:15:01,919 remembers is walking in there seeing 330 00:15:07,269 --> 00:15:03,839 these figures and then his net 331 00:15:09,979 --> 00:15:07,279 recollection is being there so yeah um 332 00:15:12,469 --> 00:15:09,989 in restoration and due to his other 333 00:15:14,629 --> 00:15:12,479 experiences later on of occurred and the 334 00:15:16,939 --> 00:15:14,639 fact that he quite clearly the contactee 335 00:15:18,859 --> 00:15:16,949 I think it's a probable or at least 336 00:15:20,599 --> 00:15:18,869 possible that he was abducted on this 337 00:15:22,969 --> 00:15:20,609 occasion and has the memories of that 338 00:15:25,099 --> 00:15:22,979 experience blood blacked out for those 339 00:15:27,289 --> 00:15:25,109 who are unfamiliar with their contact 340 00:15:29,929 --> 00:15:27,299 experiences where people are taken the 341 00:15:31,729 --> 00:15:29,939 craft and taken aboard craft and a lot 342 00:15:33,289 --> 00:15:31,739 of the time the year the infamy of the 343 00:15:34,789 --> 00:15:33,299 information is quite fragmented they 344 00:15:36,649 --> 00:15:34,799 only remember parts of the experience 345 00:15:38,299 --> 00:15:36,659 and in other cases they can't remember 346 00:15:40,609 --> 00:15:38,309 at all and it's called their missing 347 00:15:42,979 --> 00:15:40,619 time usually and they fit to have the 348 00:15:44,059 --> 00:15:42,989 memories blanked out and I personally 349 00:15:46,129 --> 00:15:44,069 believe that something that the beans 350 00:15:47,899 --> 00:15:46,139 are doing on purpose they kind of 351 00:15:50,659 --> 00:15:47,909 appeared with working covertly and they 352 00:15:52,039 --> 00:15:50,669 don't really want the the human beings 353 00:15:53,199 --> 00:15:52,049 who are involved with contact to know 354 00:15:55,489 --> 00:15:53,209 that they're having these experiences 355 00:15:56,989 --> 00:15:55,499 that I could talk about missing time as 356 00:16:00,409 --> 00:15:56,999 you know for then for the entire lecture 357 00:16:05,179 --> 00:16:00,419 so let's move on so we're moving on now 358 00:16:07,219 --> 00:16:05,189 in 1988 and again we've got a scenario 359 00:16:09,409 --> 00:16:07,229 here where you a possible abduction took 360 00:16:12,019 --> 00:16:09,419 place and this time it was on the 361 00:16:13,819 --> 00:16:12,029 motorway and with his parents driving 362 00:16:14,530 --> 00:16:13,829 and they've gone down to folks turned 363 00:16:16,570 --> 00:16:14,540 down here 364 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:16,580 as I was London up there and sways to 365 00:16:20,530 --> 00:16:18,770 live at point B and this is there this 366 00:16:22,030 --> 00:16:20,540 is that route they were taking home so 367 00:16:24,190 --> 00:16:22,040 they kind of visit relatives down here 368 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:24,200 and and they were heading back along the 369 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:26,570 road and somewhere on this journey this 370 00:16:31,530 --> 00:16:28,130 incident occurred we don't know the 371 00:16:33,670 --> 00:16:31,540 exact location but Polly round here 372 00:16:35,830 --> 00:16:33,680 today is looking at the back seat of the 373 00:16:38,860 --> 00:16:35,840 of the car just looking at the window 374 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:38,870 and all of a sudden e cesar what I 375 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:41,690 basically i Jes a fighter jet following 376 00:16:48,580 --> 00:16:44,290 after the car and it fits we're matching 377 00:16:51,220 --> 00:16:48,590 the speed of the car is essentially kind 378 00:16:54,430 --> 00:16:51,230 of floating slowly matching and just 379 00:16:55,870 --> 00:16:54,440 hovering there in the sky and he tells 380 00:16:57,430 --> 00:16:55,880 his parents about this jet and they're 381 00:16:59,920 --> 00:16:57,440 like madam don't be silly you know tips 382 00:17:02,140 --> 00:16:59,930 because if you can't come follow cars it 383 00:17:03,430 --> 00:17:02,150 doesn't happen so they carry on driving 384 00:17:06,190 --> 00:17:03,440 and they don't really pay much attention 385 00:17:09,610 --> 00:17:06,200 all of a sudden and everything goes 386 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:09,620 black um everything outside the car was 387 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:12,050 a completely pitch black in the 388 00:17:16,120 --> 00:17:14,090 car yet some visibility of the of his 389 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:16,130 clothes surroundings and his parents 390 00:17:19,150 --> 00:17:18,050 appeared to be sort of passed out in the 391 00:17:20,860 --> 00:17:19,160 front of the car they paid to be 392 00:17:23,620 --> 00:17:20,870 unconscious which is lying there in the 393 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:23,630 seats like that completely oblivious it 394 00:17:28,330 --> 00:17:25,490 also looks like the cars ground to a 395 00:17:31,090 --> 00:17:28,340 halt and it's just everything's still 396 00:17:33,730 --> 00:17:31,100 and quiet and dark outside and then 397 00:17:36,370 --> 00:17:33,740 David it was about I think it's about 13 398 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:36,380 to 12 or 13 for this point he gets 399 00:17:40,540 --> 00:17:38,210 really he's got this varied recollection 400 00:17:42,610 --> 00:17:40,550 of something approaching the car from 401 00:17:45,970 --> 00:17:42,620 the outside and opening the car door on 402 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:45,980 his side and that's it that's that's his 403 00:17:50,140 --> 00:17:47,690 only that's where his memory of that 404 00:17:51,970 --> 00:17:50,150 incident ends as I mentioned a lot of 405 00:17:55,060 --> 00:17:51,980 the time memories of contact can be 406 00:17:58,210 --> 00:17:55,070 quite fragmented so I'm looking at more 407 00:18:00,430 --> 00:17:58,220 debt physio desi and 26 or so wrong so 408 00:18:02,230 --> 00:18:00,440 just stand the boat away that there is 409 00:18:04,450 --> 00:18:02,240 the type of jet that was that was 410 00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:04,460 following after the car don't know that 411 00:18:08,350 --> 00:18:05,720 was that cyber jet because he had an 412 00:18:10,750 --> 00:18:08,360 interest in aviation at the age and he 413 00:18:15,390 --> 00:18:10,760 he actually knew that it was that time 414 00:18:18,730 --> 00:18:15,400 jet so is a fighter jet volkan and 415 00:18:20,410 --> 00:18:18,740 essentially as I said he can't fly at 416 00:18:21,580 --> 00:18:20,420 that speed Jets obviously when you see 417 00:18:24,430 --> 00:18:21,590 them they're just zip right across 418 00:18:26,649 --> 00:18:24,440 really quick flick to have been 419 00:18:28,060 --> 00:18:26,659 traveling at that speed and also 420 00:18:31,629 --> 00:18:28,070 following the car is just completely 421 00:18:33,700 --> 00:18:31,639 implausible really and we move on there 422 00:18:35,109 --> 00:18:33,710 to another area of contact which some of 423 00:18:38,259 --> 00:18:35,119 you will be familiar with but maybe not 424 00:18:39,820 --> 00:18:38,269 all which is screen memories screen 425 00:18:41,950 --> 00:18:39,830 memories are where the beings appeared a 426 00:18:43,719 --> 00:18:41,960 mask either their own appearance or the 427 00:18:46,060 --> 00:18:43,729 appearance of their of their craft and 428 00:18:48,159 --> 00:18:46,070 they did it's quite regularly with with 429 00:18:51,009 --> 00:18:48,169 contact experiences and the bees because 430 00:18:53,919 --> 00:18:51,019 sometimes disguise himself as a family 431 00:18:56,229 --> 00:18:53,929 member or friend or an animal the craft 432 00:18:58,299 --> 00:18:56,239 had seen as owls something you want over 433 00:19:00,039 --> 00:18:58,309 the film the fourth kind which was a 434 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:00,049 kind of contact theme horror movie and 435 00:19:04,029 --> 00:19:02,210 in that there the guy was seeing owls 436 00:19:06,789 --> 00:19:04,039 and that was basically based on that 437 00:19:10,029 --> 00:19:06,799 other animals have been reported wolves 438 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:10,039 even tigers something that so they 439 00:19:13,450 --> 00:19:11,450 appeared to be something familiar to the 440 00:19:14,919 --> 00:19:13,460 individual and within with the craft 441 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:14,929 there will often disguise himself as a 442 00:19:18,820 --> 00:19:17,210 helicopter or a biplane or something 443 00:19:21,580 --> 00:19:18,830 like that so the individual when their 444 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:21,590 things back to to the experience they 445 00:19:26,379 --> 00:19:23,330 don't see a kind of flying saucer or 446 00:19:28,659 --> 00:19:26,389 whatever they see a mundane object and 447 00:19:30,190 --> 00:19:28,669 then sometimes the regression they can 448 00:19:31,479 --> 00:19:30,200 actually see it in its real form and 449 00:19:34,539 --> 00:19:31,489 they can actually sort see the being as 450 00:19:36,339 --> 00:19:34,549 a being or see the craft and this is 451 00:19:38,109 --> 00:19:36,349 this is a very common aspect to contact 452 00:19:40,210 --> 00:19:38,119 and I would say a definite real part of 453 00:19:41,710 --> 00:19:40,220 it and again it appears to be something 454 00:19:43,899 --> 00:19:41,720 that the beans are doing I think that 455 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:43,909 they're doing on purpose probably to 456 00:19:48,489 --> 00:19:46,090 reduce the fear of the experience and 457 00:19:50,019 --> 00:19:48,499 again and again though it's almost like 458 00:19:51,849 --> 00:19:50,029 they're going into the person's mind and 459 00:19:55,659 --> 00:19:51,859 finding something which is familiar or 460 00:19:57,580 --> 00:19:55,669 they're okay with and for example in 461 00:19:58,989 --> 00:19:57,590 some days earlier experiences other than 462 00:20:00,549 --> 00:19:58,999 we're going to cover here he had he 463 00:20:02,859 --> 00:20:00,559 actually had a number of princes where 464 00:20:04,719 --> 00:20:02,869 he saw soldiers in his room at night and 465 00:20:05,710 --> 00:20:04,729 he had an interest in the army and he 466 00:20:07,719 --> 00:20:05,720 was thinking about joining the armed 467 00:20:09,460 --> 00:20:07,729 forces and this other thing and this 468 00:20:13,330 --> 00:20:09,470 problem that was sort of taking that 469 00:20:14,979 --> 00:20:13,340 that form so I'd certainly believe that 470 00:20:16,690 --> 00:20:14,989 it's quite possible this jet wasn't a 471 00:20:19,239 --> 00:20:16,700 jet at all but was a craft following 472 00:20:21,129 --> 00:20:19,249 behind the car then as this sudden 473 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:21,139 darkness this again is a very regular 474 00:20:25,419 --> 00:20:23,210 ragley reported aspect of contact 475 00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:25,429 interestingly you've got either bright 476 00:20:29,979 --> 00:20:28,070 light or darkness for cases some people 477 00:20:32,169 --> 00:20:29,989 see everything go pitch black around and 478 00:20:34,690 --> 00:20:32,179 sometimes when they board the when they 479 00:20:37,149 --> 00:20:34,700 go away to what appears to be a craft is 480 00:20:38,829 --> 00:20:37,159 it's very very dark around other times 481 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:38,839 they can be blinding white light and 482 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:40,370 some of the beings can kind of step 483 00:20:44,740 --> 00:20:42,770 out of this lighten and take people back 484 00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:44,750 into the light with them so it's very 485 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:47,840 interesting these kind of parallels the 486 00:20:54,670 --> 00:20:50,450 parents unconscious again this again 487 00:20:56,290 --> 00:20:54,680 this again puts to contact and there's a 488 00:20:57,910 --> 00:20:56,300 lot of time distortion element to 489 00:20:59,680 --> 00:20:57,920 contact cases and when you look into 490 00:21:01,990 --> 00:20:59,690 quite a few you're just starts to the 491 00:21:03,250 --> 00:21:02,000 similarities between the cases and it's 492 00:21:04,990 --> 00:21:03,260 almost like they're shutting down the 493 00:21:08,290 --> 00:21:05,000 the local area some sort of time 494 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:08,300 distortion goes on and so for example 495 00:21:12,730 --> 00:21:10,730 let's say there's a man and his wife and 496 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:12,740 they line there and and the wife has a 497 00:21:16,060 --> 00:21:14,450 covered experience in the night the 498 00:21:17,650 --> 00:21:16,070 husband may be a completely sort of 499 00:21:19,870 --> 00:21:17,660 knocked out unconscious and she can go 500 00:21:21,460 --> 00:21:19,880 to try and wake him up and hits him and 501 00:21:23,049 --> 00:21:21,470 everything ne le just doesn't stay just 502 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:23,059 stays completely sleeps like it's been 503 00:21:28,270 --> 00:21:25,610 blanked out and I believe that they do 504 00:21:29,890 --> 00:21:28,280 that and so that they can directly 505 00:21:31,930 --> 00:21:29,900 contact the individual without other 506 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:31,940 people interfering so anybody they don't 507 00:21:35,910 --> 00:21:34,250 want to be a part of the experience will 508 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:35,920 not be able to essentially shut down 509 00:21:41,410 --> 00:21:38,330 switched off for a year for a period of 510 00:21:43,180 --> 00:21:41,420 time the sense of approaching figure in 511 00:21:45,700 --> 00:21:43,190 the car door opening tends to suggest 512 00:21:47,830 --> 00:21:45,710 that a being of some kind approached him 513 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:47,840 and possibly took him out of the car 514 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:49,610 elsewhere although he's got no 515 00:21:54,310 --> 00:21:52,730 recollection of that of course we've got 516 00:21:56,500 --> 00:21:54,320 the confirmation from the father yeah 517 00:21:59,140 --> 00:21:56,510 this wasn't too long ago meant three or 518 00:22:01,090 --> 00:21:59,150 four years ago David decided to speak 519 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:01,100 with his father about this experience as 520 00:22:06,130 --> 00:22:03,170 its daddy's they're very skeptically 521 00:22:09,070 --> 00:22:06,140 minded about the whole thing and doesn't 522 00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:09,080 it doesn't entertain the notion that 523 00:22:13,870 --> 00:22:11,110 these other things can take place and 524 00:22:15,610 --> 00:22:13,880 Dave went and spoke with him about this 525 00:22:17,650 --> 00:22:15,620 experience and we're starting to take it 526 00:22:21,430 --> 00:22:17,660 through him and all of a sudden at the 527 00:22:24,250 --> 00:22:21,440 flu it's like oh I remember the car 528 00:22:25,900 --> 00:22:24,260 going black and I st. UD basie just he 529 00:22:28,270 --> 00:22:25,910 just came back to him now this this 530 00:22:31,330 --> 00:22:28,280 happens what happens is these memories 531 00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:31,340 that are blocked out some sometimes this 532 00:22:34,180 --> 00:22:32,720 can trigger them and one of the things 533 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:34,190 that can trigger them is just talking 534 00:22:37,390 --> 00:22:35,690 about them just talking about that that 535 00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:37,400 experience because sometimes bring the 536 00:22:41,410 --> 00:22:39,200 memories back into the forefront of the 537 00:22:43,690 --> 00:22:41,420 mind so his father black black this out 538 00:22:45,490 --> 00:22:43,700 completely but when he when he talked 539 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:45,500 about it he remembered it and and he 540 00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:47,330 couldn't explain it he didn't take it 541 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:49,310 any further than that but his father did 542 00:22:53,570 --> 00:22:51,170 confirm that he remembered the car sunny 543 00:22:54,590 --> 00:22:53,580 everything goes suddenly black and 544 00:22:56,150 --> 00:22:54,600 from that point onwards with that 545 00:22:57,590 --> 00:22:56,160 experience she was not text so he 546 00:22:59,690 --> 00:22:57,600 wouldn't have any any further 547 00:23:03,140 --> 00:22:59,700 recollection of that anyway so 548 00:23:06,530 --> 00:23:03,150 absolutely fascinating there again 549 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:06,540 another abduction here this is june two 550 00:23:12,370 --> 00:23:09,810 thousand now and this is what we've 551 00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:12,380 turned their Dave's a trigger experience 552 00:23:16,910 --> 00:23:15,120 and by trigger it spins I mean it's a 553 00:23:19,970 --> 00:23:16,920 particular experience that the 554 00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:19,980 individual undergoes where it kind of 555 00:23:23,450 --> 00:23:21,510 opens their mind to what's happening in 556 00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:23,460 their life now a lot of contactees I 557 00:23:27,170 --> 00:23:24,960 have experiences from an early age but 558 00:23:29,420 --> 00:23:27,180 they ignore them or push them to the 559 00:23:30,620 --> 00:23:29,430 back of their mind or maybe don't 560 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:30,630 interpret them in the right way and 561 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:32,610 they're there but they know things have 562 00:23:35,570 --> 00:23:33,690 happened but they just try to ignore 563 00:23:37,130 --> 00:23:35,580 them to get on with their life and then 564 00:23:39,650 --> 00:23:37,140 I they may have a certain experience 565 00:23:41,540 --> 00:23:39,660 where it's just completely obvious that 566 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:41,550 something very unusual stake in place 567 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:43,410 and then often they'll go back through 568 00:23:45,980 --> 00:23:44,730 their life and they'll start to look at 569 00:23:47,870 --> 00:23:45,990 these earlier experiences and they'd be 570 00:23:49,790 --> 00:23:47,880 like oh wow you know things are starting 571 00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:49,800 to fit in the place now and it kind of 572 00:23:53,660 --> 00:23:51,600 explains why well that particular thing 573 00:23:55,670 --> 00:23:53,670 happened early wrong so this here what 574 00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:55,680 happenin dude 2000 an absolutely 575 00:24:00,500 --> 00:23:57,840 incredible experience and this involved 576 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:00,510 David his wife and his newborn baby 577 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:02,730 daughter who was only a few weeks old at 578 00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:08,250 the time i said 'no counter with a 579 00:24:11,690 --> 00:24:10,080 silver disk essentially yeah i do 580 00:24:13,460 --> 00:24:11,700 apologize you guys at the back i know 581 00:24:15,620 --> 00:24:13,470 the screens quite small world i'll try 582 00:24:18,260 --> 00:24:15,630 to explain what's on the pictures now so 583 00:24:20,510 --> 00:24:18,270 here we've got another map and he'd been 584 00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:20,520 to been to banbury here a porn eh sorry 585 00:24:26,570 --> 00:24:23,520 point c heads Bambury and he's traveling 586 00:24:28,730 --> 00:24:26,580 bareback to bicester so he'd David used 587 00:24:30,830 --> 00:24:28,740 to a box you smear boxer and he had just 588 00:24:33,380 --> 00:24:30,840 been to a bottom match and lead it hurts 589 00:24:35,150 --> 00:24:33,390 his rib things he cracked a rib and he 590 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:35,160 went to banbury to get it checked out so 591 00:24:38,780 --> 00:24:36,690 the doctor could do this or take a look 592 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:38,790 at it nothing them and on the way back 593 00:24:44,540 --> 00:24:41,130 they were passing this point here which 594 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:44,550 is a small village called a no on the B 595 00:24:50,210 --> 00:24:48,930 4 10 I think it is and and if those had 596 00:24:51,470 --> 00:24:50,220 a few experiences on this road at 597 00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:51,480 various points for his life by the way 598 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:53,910 but there were there just traveling back 599 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:55,770 in the car and as wife's in the 600 00:24:59,450 --> 00:24:57,330 passenger seat is a newborn daughter 601 00:25:02,900 --> 00:24:59,460 sitting two car seats in the back of the 602 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:02,910 car and Thursdays drawing of what they 603 00:25:06,650 --> 00:25:05,010 saw essentially they're coming on here 604 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:06,660 the road a set of quite quiet on the 605 00:25:10,490 --> 00:25:07,890 road there wasn't any other cars around 606 00:25:12,110 --> 00:25:10,500 at the time all of a sudden this as a 607 00:25:14,660 --> 00:25:12,120 flattened silver disc essentially 608 00:25:17,390 --> 00:25:14,670 descends down into the view in the in 609 00:25:19,460 --> 00:25:17,400 the foreground of the car both him and 610 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:19,470 his wife can see it clearly it's right 611 00:25:24,890 --> 00:25:22,490 there solid object and then they 612 00:25:26,510 --> 00:25:24,900 acknowledge the fact that they've seen 613 00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:26,520 this and it appears to be again matching 614 00:25:30,740 --> 00:25:28,620 the speed of the car that just comes 615 00:25:33,340 --> 00:25:30,750 down and it's following they slow down 616 00:25:36,170 --> 00:25:33,350 the car a bit and at that point 617 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:36,180 something changes over a sudden they 618 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:37,890 further on down the road the crust 619 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:42,090 totally vanished and and and they just 620 00:25:44,810 --> 00:25:43,410 plays he come round and they know that 621 00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:44,820 something's happened but they can't say 622 00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:48,600 what almost immediately within minutes 623 00:25:53,210 --> 00:25:50,640 of this Dave starts to get these vivid 624 00:25:55,820 --> 00:25:53,220 flashbacks of what he believes took 625 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:55,830 place in the in the missing time they 626 00:25:59,960 --> 00:25:58,170 checked the clock and about some 30 to 627 00:26:02,750 --> 00:25:59,970 40 minutes of the essentially vanished 628 00:26:04,460 --> 00:26:02,760 that they couldn't account for but all 629 00:26:07,940 --> 00:26:04,470 they knew was this object wasn't around 630 00:26:10,730 --> 00:26:07,950 anymore today was certainly in the back 631 00:26:12,610 --> 00:26:10,740 of the car with his her rib and these 632 00:26:15,170 --> 00:26:12,620 memories start to come back to his brain 633 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:15,180 and what he remembers is being in a 634 00:26:19,820 --> 00:26:17,850 location like this as a kind of 635 00:26:22,220 --> 00:26:19,830 oval-shaped room and some banks and 636 00:26:24,830 --> 00:26:22,230 monitors with screens and things and 637 00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:24,840 it's a kind of got curved curved kind of 638 00:26:29,690 --> 00:26:28,110 a smooth smooth appearance to it he 639 00:26:32,420 --> 00:26:29,700 certainly believes he's aboard this 640 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:32,430 silver disk at this point there are five 641 00:26:37,970 --> 00:26:34,890 humanoid beings standing in front of him 642 00:26:41,390 --> 00:26:37,980 again wearing these are type blue six 643 00:26:43,790 --> 00:26:41,400 and and you can see that most of them 644 00:26:45,260 --> 00:26:43,800 are male this one here was a female so 645 00:26:48,050 --> 00:26:45,270 you can sort of difference there and 646 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:48,060 this earth central guy looks just like 647 00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:49,890 him always exactly the same as him 648 00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:52,320 almost like his identical twin but then 649 00:26:55,610 --> 00:26:53,760 Dave didn't have a beard he does 650 00:26:57,770 --> 00:26:55,620 actually have a beard now but back then 651 00:26:59,840 --> 00:26:57,780 he didn't but this being had a had a 652 00:27:02,360 --> 00:26:59,850 beard and the only essential difference 653 00:27:03,860 --> 00:27:02,370 facially to him was the bigs kind of 654 00:27:06,140 --> 00:27:03,870 hair color was a kind of sort of dark 655 00:27:10,820 --> 00:27:06,150 race of color rather than his kind of 656 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:10,830 brownish hair so yeah the wife and 657 00:27:16,820 --> 00:27:15,090 daughter are there a next room so it 658 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:16,830 starts looking around it's worse to one 659 00:27:20,910 --> 00:27:18,250 side and she's like this 660 00:27:23,490 --> 00:27:20,920 she just appears to be unconscious just 661 00:27:25,110 --> 00:27:23,500 hang in there standing up to his left is 662 00:27:27,450 --> 00:27:25,120 the car seat with his baby daughter in 663 00:27:30,210 --> 00:27:27,460 again fast asleep but they're taking the 664 00:27:32,940 --> 00:27:30,220 car seat wither and she just then on the 665 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:32,950 ground next to the central being steps 666 00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:35,890 forward and they start having a 667 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:38,080 conversation quite an in-depth 668 00:27:42,510 --> 00:27:40,810 conversation the conversation begins at 669 00:27:45,210 --> 00:27:42,520 is telepathic so he starts to get these 670 00:27:47,670 --> 00:27:45,220 M it starts to hear things directly in 671 00:27:50,190 --> 00:27:47,680 his mind coming from this beam and then 672 00:27:53,310 --> 00:27:50,200 the being starts explaining that it it 673 00:27:55,230 --> 00:27:53,320 looks like him because it is him he says 674 00:27:57,540 --> 00:27:55,240 his brother is like a brother to him 675 00:28:00,210 --> 00:27:57,550 that's what he said and he explained to 676 00:28:02,220 --> 00:28:00,220 David all sorts of stuff a lot of which 677 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:02,230 he wasn't ready for this point this just 678 00:28:05,610 --> 00:28:03,730 come out the blue didn't know what was 679 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:05,620 going on this was his first kind of 680 00:28:09,660 --> 00:28:07,330 vivid recollection of an abduction 681 00:28:11,940 --> 00:28:09,670 experience and it was all so new to him 682 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:11,950 but the Bing was essentially telling him 683 00:28:16,590 --> 00:28:14,530 that they were experiencing the world 684 00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:16,600 through his eyes and through his actions 685 00:28:21,020 --> 00:28:19,120 and thoughts and they had a direct 686 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:21,030 connection with this being and 687 00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:23,050 essentially that connection was going to 688 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:24,880 go on through life they said that this 689 00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:26,770 was a big program that is ongoing and 690 00:28:30,750 --> 00:28:28,720 that numerous can't IDs around the world 691 00:28:33,210 --> 00:28:30,760 I've got a direct connection with a 692 00:28:34,980 --> 00:28:33,220 particular entity and they kind of share 693 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:34,990 experiences and they're learning about 694 00:28:39,060 --> 00:28:37,570 the world through these through these 695 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:39,070 individuals that they decide to bond 696 00:28:44,580 --> 00:28:41,770 with i have heard other content ease 697 00:28:47,010 --> 00:28:44,590 mentioned this before quite famous lady 698 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:47,020 from America from Australia sorry Susie 699 00:28:50,910 --> 00:28:49,090 Hanson if any of you where Suzy Hanson 700 00:28:53,340 --> 00:28:50,920 she's released a book called the jewel 701 00:28:54,660 --> 00:28:53,350 soul connection and essentially she's 702 00:28:56,690 --> 00:28:54,670 talking about the same thing there's a 703 00:29:01,710 --> 00:28:56,700 direct connection with it with a being 704 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:01,720 so very very interesting so yeah the as 705 00:29:07,140 --> 00:29:03,490 I said the same same beings as before 706 00:29:08,730 --> 00:29:07,150 these a humanoid then he has his 707 00:29:10,530 --> 00:29:08,740 communication with the key contacts and 708 00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:10,540 at this point it was telepathic although 709 00:29:14,580 --> 00:29:12,640 in later cases they do have spoken to 710 00:29:16,590 --> 00:29:14,590 him audibly as well whether it'll move 711 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:16,600 the masters of both types and then he 712 00:29:19,740 --> 00:29:18,250 appears to be returned to the car this 713 00:29:21,780 --> 00:29:19,750 went on for quite a period of time and 714 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:21,790 the the conversation was quite in-depth 715 00:29:24,810 --> 00:29:23,650 they didn't talk about exactly where 716 00:29:26,190 --> 00:29:24,820 they were from they didn't talk about 717 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:26,200 how they got there anything like that 718 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:28,330 but they were talking a lot about how 719 00:29:32,090 --> 00:29:29,970 there's going to be changes on earth 720 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:32,100 and that this program has been going on 721 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:34,650 quite a while and will continue to do so 722 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:37,170 it didn't all sink in it doesn't 723 00:29:42,110 --> 00:29:39,770 remember everything that was said but 724 00:29:44,450 --> 00:29:42,120 what it does remember is is in the 725 00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:44,460 report as is quite a lot i'm not going 726 00:29:47,930 --> 00:29:46,080 to go into too much now because its 727 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:47,940 pages but you can go read all that in 728 00:29:52,730 --> 00:29:51,090 the report yeah the after effects and 729 00:29:56,750 --> 00:29:52,740 reactions right so he starts getting 730 00:29:59,180 --> 00:29:56,760 these flashbacks and the experience 731 00:30:02,300 --> 00:29:59,190 really affected him on a deep level in 732 00:30:04,820 --> 00:30:02,310 the following months after that he he 733 00:30:07,580 --> 00:30:04,830 became an adverse to to all forms of 734 00:30:09,980 --> 00:30:07,590 violence he stopped boxing he go of his 735 00:30:12,860 --> 00:30:09,990 idea event going into the military he 736 00:30:16,370 --> 00:30:12,870 became vegetarian and he lost about 737 00:30:18,110 --> 00:30:16,380 three or four stone in weight now a lot 738 00:30:20,060 --> 00:30:18,120 of the time quantities do get this 739 00:30:21,140 --> 00:30:20,070 happen and it's usually after they kind 740 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:21,150 of realized and they start having these 741 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:23,490 experiences with these beings quite 742 00:30:28,010 --> 00:30:26,490 common being vegetarian be more 743 00:30:29,870 --> 00:30:28,020 protective of the environment and more 744 00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:29,880 caring towards animals this is a common 745 00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:32,910 thing that occurs and you know it's one 746 00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:34,320 of those observations that comes out 747 00:30:47,630 --> 00:30:45,770 because that doesn't focus on these 748 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:47,640 experiences directly but I've dealt with 749 00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:49,170 lots of other cases which do involve 750 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:51,840 that angle so year was certainly Dave 751 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:53,850 trigger experience and that point 752 00:30:59,150 --> 00:30:56,010 onwards he started to become aware of 753 00:31:01,460 --> 00:30:59,160 what was happening in his life to move 754 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:01,470 on now to early 2002 I did say that 755 00:31:05,330 --> 00:31:03,570 there's some photographic evidence in 756 00:31:08,860 --> 00:31:05,340 his talk and he's a bit fully right here 757 00:31:13,250 --> 00:31:08,870 so the potential UFO photograph here 758 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:13,260 writes okay this is a daughter at least 759 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:15,570 who have interviewed as well she's given 760 00:31:19,310 --> 00:31:17,250 me a half-hour interview with his 761 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:19,320 daughter some of the testimony is in the 762 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:21,810 report she's now about for 12 years old 763 00:31:28,370 --> 00:31:26,210 some and yeah there's the object okay so 764 00:31:30,260 --> 00:31:28,380 she's here and David just basic just 765 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:30,270 sick in his land one day just decides to 766 00:31:34,340 --> 00:31:32,490 take a photo on the best photograph ever 767 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:34,350 of course but he's got some clothes 768 00:31:37,820 --> 00:31:36,450 hanging up there that are drying and you 769 00:31:39,860 --> 00:31:37,830 can see here the window and we've got 770 00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:39,870 this neck and hanging down to the window 771 00:31:43,670 --> 00:31:41,910 when it gets the photograph developed he 772 00:31:45,470 --> 00:31:43,680 realizes there's this odd looking object 773 00:31:51,380 --> 00:31:45,480 there this is not a closer look at that 774 00:31:53,390 --> 00:31:51,390 oh this right okay so you can send you 775 00:31:55,820 --> 00:31:53,400 see you there that the shape appears to 776 00:31:59,390 --> 00:31:55,830 resemble I kind of classic don't don't 777 00:32:01,250 --> 00:31:59,400 disc essentially and it's being seen 778 00:32:02,570 --> 00:32:01,260 through the net curtain yeah so if it is 779 00:32:04,460 --> 00:32:02,580 outside and i'm not saying hundred 780 00:32:07,550 --> 00:32:04,470 percent that it is but if it is outside 781 00:32:08,750 --> 00:32:07,560 then that would that would be why it's 782 00:32:09,890 --> 00:32:08,760 kind of dog colors because you're 783 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:09,900 looking out through the curtain and 784 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:12,330 appear if it is outside up in the sky 785 00:32:16,430 --> 00:32:14,490 and we've got no way of gauging distance 786 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:16,440 obviously you can see there's no novice 787 00:32:20,060 --> 00:32:18,090 detailed in that at all really that can 788 00:32:23,420 --> 00:32:20,070 be made out we've only really got the 789 00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:23,430 shape and this sort of general color yes 790 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:24,960 it could be a smudge on the photograph 791 00:32:28,850 --> 00:32:27,210 absolutely you know Dave certainly you 792 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:28,860 know believes that that could be could 793 00:32:33,260 --> 00:32:32,010 be what it is however Dave's had a lot 794 00:32:35,570 --> 00:32:33,270 of contact experiences throughout his 795 00:32:37,850 --> 00:32:35,580 life he's had other other experiences 796 00:32:39,650 --> 00:32:37,860 later on where crafts have been seen in 797 00:32:42,340 --> 00:32:39,660 the vicinity of those experiences taking 798 00:32:44,870 --> 00:32:42,350 place one was seen by his neighbor 799 00:32:48,410 --> 00:32:44,880 hovering hovering over the road where 800 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:48,420 David lived on and was reported to from 801 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:51,090 his neighbor and so it's certainly 802 00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:52,410 possible that what you're looking at 803 00:32:54,659 --> 00:32:52,960 there is 804 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:54,669 natural kraft una this outside in the 805 00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:57,010 sky at the time now dead doesn't have 806 00:32:59,490 --> 00:32:58,240 any recollection many contact 807 00:33:01,169 --> 00:32:59,500 experiences they occurred around this 808 00:33:02,610 --> 00:33:01,179 time but it's again certainly 809 00:33:04,769 --> 00:33:02,620 interesting that we have a photograph 30 810 00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:04,779 look at further said there's numerous 811 00:33:12,110 --> 00:33:06,880 explanations one of which is that it's 812 00:33:14,669 --> 00:33:12,120 some sort of spacecraft right okay so 813 00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:14,679 2016 same year the same years at UFO 814 00:33:20,730 --> 00:33:16,720 photograph few months later after his 815 00:33:22,169 --> 00:33:20,740 taken this photo and one days it was in 816 00:33:24,930 --> 00:33:22,179 the light of feeling quite sleepy as a 817 00:33:27,779 --> 00:33:24,940 late evening time and his wife decided 818 00:33:29,970 --> 00:33:27,789 so two guys at the house and sort of 819 00:33:34,740 --> 00:33:29,980 leaves him there and he drops off to 820 00:33:36,419 --> 00:33:34,750 sleep on the sofa and it's been asleep 821 00:33:37,740 --> 00:33:36,429 on the sofa for a while and he comes 822 00:33:40,649 --> 00:33:37,750 back round and he's still lying on the 823 00:33:43,289 --> 00:33:40,659 safer it's bit darker and in the room 824 00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:43,299 and he senses that something's not quite 825 00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:46,480 right this is kind of shift in reality 826 00:33:50,850 --> 00:33:48,880 as he calls it and this is very very 827 00:33:52,649 --> 00:33:50,860 commonly reported with with content 828 00:33:55,409 --> 00:33:52,659 experiences they often start with a 829 00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:55,419 change in the surroundings like like 830 00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:56,799 everything looks fine but there's 831 00:34:00,120 --> 00:33:58,570 something not quite right and some 832 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:00,130 people sense a kind of presence in the 833 00:34:06,389 --> 00:34:04,570 room he he looks over the doorway so no 834 00:34:08,970 --> 00:34:06,399 he looks over the door so he was not 835 00:34:11,250 --> 00:34:08,980 paralyzed at this point he he was able 836 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:11,260 to lift up and look he's looking around 837 00:34:14,579 --> 00:34:13,210 the room he looked about the delay and 838 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:14,589 he says this all guys standing in the 839 00:34:20,099 --> 00:34:17,530 doorway and essentially that's a what we 840 00:34:23,399 --> 00:34:20,109 commonly call a grey one of the more 841 00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:23,409 commonly reported types of a venti the 842 00:34:28,980 --> 00:34:26,320 usually about four foot high large black 843 00:34:30,839 --> 00:34:28,990 eyes made famous by films such as close 844 00:34:34,169 --> 00:34:30,849 encounters and the x-files and all that 845 00:34:35,369 --> 00:34:34,179 the quintessential look of how an alien 846 00:34:37,349 --> 00:34:35,379 supposed to look like in the in the 847 00:34:38,909 --> 00:34:37,359 public eye these guys are seen quite 848 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:38,919 regularly with contact that as i said 849 00:34:43,109 --> 00:34:40,570 earlier on the the humanoid types are 850 00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:43,119 also seen almost as often as great and 851 00:34:48,899 --> 00:34:44,169 there are other types of should not 852 00:34:51,210 --> 00:34:48,909 going to go into the moment so yeah at 853 00:34:53,250 --> 00:34:51,220 that point he black fam I'm so it turns 854 00:34:54,450 --> 00:34:53,260 and sees this guy and immediately if it 855 00:34:56,430 --> 00:34:54,460 is it feels almost like it's been 856 00:34:59,220 --> 00:34:56,440 sedated and it just drops back off to 857 00:35:01,829 --> 00:34:59,230 sleep and everything goes dark when he 858 00:35:04,349 --> 00:35:01,839 comes around and a number of hours has 859 00:35:05,700 --> 00:35:04,359 gone by it's watch his wife is still out 860 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:05,710 the house and 861 00:35:08,849 --> 00:35:07,450 realizes the one of his feet is aching 862 00:35:11,099 --> 00:35:08,859 quite a lot it's getting quite a lot of 863 00:35:12,810 --> 00:35:11,109 pain from his foot in this of his foot 864 00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:12,820 it was bad for at the time of I am a 865 00:35:17,660 --> 00:35:14,710 little bit spoilt and on the basis potty 866 00:35:19,890 --> 00:35:17,670 he sees that he's tried to draw it 867 00:35:22,710 --> 00:35:19,900 essentially it was a very very odd 868 00:35:23,970 --> 00:35:22,720 collection of lines and circles and yes 869 00:35:27,570 --> 00:35:23,980 it does almost look like a crop 870 00:35:29,579 --> 00:35:27,580 formation that's right and so a lot of 871 00:35:31,470 --> 00:35:29,589 circles up here with these kind of lines 872 00:35:33,420 --> 00:35:31,480 go down here and then another double 873 00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:33,430 circle type thing there so imagine that 874 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:35,710 in red in red so lines on the base of 875 00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:39,490 his feet and it's got no idea how it got 876 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:42,609 there whatsoever so someone look at some 877 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:43,930 of the possibilities for what they could 878 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:47,170 have been was that previously unnoticed 879 00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:49,930 injury so sometimes you can injure 880 00:35:52,740 --> 00:35:51,280 yourself and not realize you've been 881 00:35:54,660 --> 00:35:52,750 hurt until you until you look and you 882 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:54,670 see see the cut or whatever and then all 883 00:35:58,050 --> 00:35:56,170 of a sudden it starts to hurt now it 884 00:36:00,540 --> 00:35:58,060 just says its foot started aching before 885 00:36:02,220 --> 00:36:00,550 he saw it but even so had it been 886 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:02,230 something had he damaged his foot in 887 00:36:07,050 --> 00:36:05,050 some way on the previous and earlier on 888 00:36:09,450 --> 00:36:07,060 that day and not realized that maybe you 889 00:36:11,310 --> 00:36:09,460 had tight shoes on and I was blocking 890 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:11,320 the pain there's something like that but 891 00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:13,330 doesn't seem to really fit that could it 892 00:36:17,099 --> 00:36:15,400 trod on something while sleepwalking um 893 00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:17,109 no this is one of the things I put to 894 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:18,520 him you know when maybe you dropped off 895 00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:20,290 to sleep you started sleep wandering 896 00:36:24,839 --> 00:36:22,089 around your house and you tried on one 897 00:36:26,460 --> 00:36:24,849 of your daughter's toys of what I'm the 898 00:36:28,530 --> 00:36:26,470 day we confirmed that they didn't have 899 00:36:29,940 --> 00:36:28,540 anything in the room there was a Lego or 900 00:36:32,250 --> 00:36:29,950 anything lying around that he could have 901 00:36:34,260 --> 00:36:32,260 trod none especially not something to 902 00:36:36,270 --> 00:36:34,270 make it a very odd shape like that on 903 00:36:38,099 --> 00:36:36,280 the base of his foot and I mean it was 904 00:36:40,020 --> 00:36:38,109 quite an extensive and you can see the 905 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:40,030 the amount of his foot that was covered 906 00:36:44,099 --> 00:36:41,290 with it so that didn't really seem to 907 00:36:47,310 --> 00:36:44,109 fit either well that medical skin 908 00:36:48,510 --> 00:36:47,320 condition the day was not grinding 909 00:36:50,010 --> 00:36:48,520 history of having a medical skin 910 00:36:52,020 --> 00:36:50,020 condition of any kind you know kind of 911 00:36:53,910 --> 00:36:52,030 XML hives or anything like that it 912 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:53,920 doesn't you know he hasn't had any any 913 00:36:58,620 --> 00:36:56,890 previous thing so I just got this to go 914 00:37:02,579 --> 00:36:58,630 on that this happened and it's never 915 00:37:04,380 --> 00:37:02,589 happened again since so and it looks too 916 00:37:05,609 --> 00:37:04,390 intricate to be a medical skin condition 917 00:37:07,890 --> 00:37:05,619 it didn't really look like a rash it 918 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:07,900 look like proper kind of curve lines and 919 00:37:12,690 --> 00:37:10,810 circles which is first rank so again the 920 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:12,700 other possible explanation what we're 921 00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:15,010 looking at here is some kind of marking 922 00:37:20,020 --> 00:37:16,400 that he got from a 923 00:37:21,730 --> 00:37:20,030 abduction or a visitation a visitation 924 00:37:23,290 --> 00:37:21,740 of basis where where the person sees 925 00:37:24,820 --> 00:37:23,300 entities in the in their environment in 926 00:37:27,070 --> 00:37:24,830 their own home like this that's a 927 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:27,080 visitation he's already had that but was 928 00:37:32,410 --> 00:37:29,930 he when he blacked out was he then taken 929 00:37:34,330 --> 00:37:32,420 aboard a craft somewhere else and have 930 00:37:35,890 --> 00:37:34,340 this done to him you know is that the 931 00:37:38,050 --> 00:37:35,900 after effect of having some strange 932 00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:38,060 instrument of some kind used on use on 933 00:37:42,190 --> 00:37:39,920 this foot we're never going to know the 934 00:37:43,660 --> 00:37:42,200 answer to that I've dealt with other 935 00:37:45,550 --> 00:37:43,670 contact cases where markings have 936 00:37:47,620 --> 00:37:45,560 appeared on people and there was one 937 00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:47,630 lady where she got a row of five dots in 938 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:49,520 the dead straight line I've dealt with 939 00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:50,810 numerous cases where they've had some 940 00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:54,320 red triangles and quite you know quite 941 00:37:59,140 --> 00:37:56,480 so straight edge trial and the mark is 942 00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:59,150 usually disappear within so 48 hours but 943 00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:00,560 very occasionally have been known to 944 00:38:08,290 --> 00:38:07,040 leave lasting scars right okay I'm going 945 00:38:10,030 --> 00:38:08,300 to take you through one more one more 946 00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:10,040 incident and then we'll have a little 947 00:38:15,340 --> 00:38:13,250 bit of a break in the future and this is 948 00:38:18,490 --> 00:38:15,350 the another incredible incident occurred 949 00:38:20,860 --> 00:38:18,500 in the summer 2004 and this one's really 950 00:38:22,630 --> 00:38:20,870 bizarre and you'll see some aspects of 951 00:38:24,220 --> 00:38:22,640 this which you probably want to see 952 00:38:26,770 --> 00:38:24,230 before live there with experiences and 953 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:26,780 it occurred near called the case fields 954 00:38:30,130 --> 00:38:28,370 that's a nickname that they earn that 955 00:38:32,380 --> 00:38:30,140 the guys gave for the area where this 956 00:38:35,290 --> 00:38:32,390 occurred so basically a number of her 957 00:38:37,780 --> 00:38:35,300 grassy fields in the southeast corner of 958 00:38:39,010 --> 00:38:37,790 bicester tan and on the outskirts and 959 00:38:40,410 --> 00:38:39,020 they and they caught the ghost fields 960 00:38:42,940 --> 00:38:40,420 because numerous people reported seeing 961 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:42,950 ghosts down there various points there's 962 00:38:46,690 --> 00:38:44,570 kind of quite spooky after that you get 963 00:38:48,190 --> 00:38:46,700 a kind of low mist and almost like that 964 00:38:49,330 --> 00:38:48,200 back that's not the ghost fields by the 965 00:38:52,990 --> 00:38:49,340 way I just grabbed that because it kind 966 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:53,000 of reminded me of it so you're one 967 00:38:57,460 --> 00:38:55,850 evening a remand is our friend Ricky the 968 00:38:58,990 --> 00:38:57,470 big that's a place called a brill hill 969 00:39:01,270 --> 00:38:59,000 other than offensive you're aware of 970 00:39:03,070 --> 00:39:01,280 that and sin the outskirts of a vista 971 00:39:05,710 --> 00:39:03,080 and they sometimes go out there 972 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:05,720 skywatching because um officer Davis has 973 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:08,330 had numerous experiences with craft and 974 00:39:12,190 --> 00:39:10,490 beings and everything and and he's well 975 00:39:14,140 --> 00:39:12,200 aware this is a part of his life so he 976 00:39:16,090 --> 00:39:14,150 likes to go out and sit under the stars 977 00:39:17,830 --> 00:39:16,100 and you know see if you can spot 978 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:17,840 anything so they're gone they're gone 979 00:39:22,090 --> 00:39:20,090 out the Brill hill and they're traveling 980 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:22,100 back observe quite quite late at night 981 00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:25,010 there between for half 10-11 so not 982 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:27,200 ridiculously like this it was certainly 983 00:39:29,329 --> 00:39:28,370 very duck very dark and they're 984 00:39:31,729 --> 00:39:29,339 traveling along a straight 985 00:39:33,890 --> 00:39:31,739 garbage lane and at this point on the 986 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:33,900 island here and they look over to the 987 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:36,450 right and they see a glowing white orb 988 00:39:40,849 --> 00:39:38,130 of light up in the sky off to the right 989 00:39:43,809 --> 00:39:40,859 of the car appears bigger than a sterile 990 00:39:46,609 --> 00:39:43,819 satellite and this white light is a 991 00:39:48,559 --> 00:39:46,619 descending and is coming down like a 992 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:48,569 falling leaf is doing this sort of 993 00:39:53,269 --> 00:39:50,729 motion and slowly coming down through 994 00:39:54,529 --> 00:39:53,279 the sky and they clock it and they're 995 00:39:56,569 --> 00:39:54,539 watching it they're carrying on driving 996 00:39:58,759 --> 00:39:56,579 along the road and this thing is across 997 00:40:00,380 --> 00:39:58,769 here over the field and it's it's 998 00:40:01,849 --> 00:40:00,390 keeping pace with the car essentially 999 00:40:04,459 --> 00:40:01,859 and they're watching it and it's coming 1000 00:40:06,769 --> 00:40:04,469 to lower and lower to the ground there's 1001 00:40:08,509 --> 00:40:06,779 a drawing of it as their car going along 1002 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:08,519 and there's the object so he's trying to 1003 00:40:12,799 --> 00:40:10,650 draw this kind of falling leaf type 1004 00:40:15,529 --> 00:40:12,809 pattern that this thing was doing I've 1005 00:40:21,769 --> 00:40:15,539 heard of a cases where people reported 1006 00:40:23,329 --> 00:40:21,779 this this pattern so they go a bit 1007 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:23,339 further up the road and this dis lights 1008 00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:24,930 coming on down and they realize it's 1009 00:40:28,309 --> 00:40:25,920 going to come down this going to touch 1010 00:40:29,959 --> 00:40:28,319 the ground and it goes down out of sight 1011 00:40:31,999 --> 00:40:29,969 behind there behind the trees off to the 1012 00:40:33,890 --> 00:40:32,009 right of the road so is the drumming 1013 00:40:37,489 --> 00:40:33,900 along here and it's gone down over here 1014 00:40:39,650 --> 00:40:37,499 somewhere and they Park up and they're 1015 00:40:42,140 --> 00:40:39,660 sitting there in the car and the 1016 00:40:44,299 --> 00:40:42,150 thinking was a craft till something over 1017 00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:44,309 there and that field over there yeah are 1018 00:40:47,900 --> 00:40:45,529 we going to go ahead go and have a look 1019 00:40:49,459 --> 00:40:47,910 would you I mean many of us here would 1020 00:40:51,049 --> 00:40:49,469 probably like oh yeah yeah I'm 1021 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:51,059 definitely gonna have a look but really 1022 00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:52,650 put yourself in that situation it's 1023 00:40:56,299 --> 00:40:53,910 quite late at night there's nobody else 1024 00:40:58,219 --> 00:40:56,309 around and this going white thing just 1025 00:40:59,900 --> 00:40:58,229 comes down into the field and you're 1026 00:41:01,279 --> 00:40:59,910 left for the either staying in the car 1027 00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:01,289 and driving off home we've been nice and 1028 00:41:06,229 --> 00:41:03,569 safe and sane or getting out and go and 1029 00:41:08,089 --> 00:41:06,239 seeing what's in the field yeah yeah 1030 00:41:10,430 --> 00:41:08,099 what's up they left five minutes 1031 00:41:12,469 --> 00:41:10,440 psyching himself up in the end they 1032 00:41:14,809 --> 00:41:12,479 decide to go for it so they are the exit 1033 00:41:16,519 --> 00:41:14,819 the car park here and they start a walk 1034 00:41:19,219 --> 00:41:16,529 out of style and come here into the 1035 00:41:20,509 --> 00:41:19,229 farmer's fields I've got their 1036 00:41:21,950 --> 00:41:20,519 photograph though took us out to the 1037 00:41:23,269 --> 00:41:21,960 location where this occurred when it 1038 00:41:25,279 --> 00:41:23,279 went down the best of the first time 1039 00:41:28,370 --> 00:41:25,289 this is the pathway to the field here 1040 00:41:30,019 --> 00:41:28,380 and they says it it was a moreover 1041 00:41:31,309 --> 00:41:30,029 greater than the kind of cleared it adds 1042 00:41:33,319 --> 00:41:31,319 a bit and everything and made it kind of 1043 00:41:34,670 --> 00:41:33,329 more public kind of walk paint walkway 1044 00:41:36,140 --> 00:41:34,680 now but you said it was some more 1045 00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:36,150 shrubbery here and everything but you 1046 00:41:41,539 --> 00:41:39,569 can still get through there's the field 1047 00:41:42,980 --> 00:41:41,549 location so that was where i showed you 1048 00:41:45,710 --> 00:41:42,990 with the circle on the map 1049 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:45,720 second ago so let's standing here in the 1050 00:41:49,490 --> 00:41:47,610 field that forgets dark and follow this 1051 00:41:50,660 --> 00:41:49,500 it was right after dark and they could 1052 00:41:52,070 --> 00:41:50,670 still make out the trees and I think it 1053 00:41:54,350 --> 00:41:52,080 was quite clear night the stars were out 1054 00:41:56,450 --> 00:41:54,360 in the moon and across here behind this 1055 00:41:58,670 --> 00:41:56,460 clump of trees there was this white glow 1056 00:42:00,350 --> 00:41:58,680 coming from the ground and it was 1057 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:00,360 obvious to them that it was whatever 1058 00:42:06,980 --> 00:42:04,410 this object was that it had come down so 1059 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:06,990 again they said they stopped and they 1060 00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:10,650 like the cigarette and they cycle cells 1061 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:12,960 up again because they quite nervous by 1062 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:14,850 this point and they're kind of wondering 1063 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:15,930 you know whether should really got going 1064 00:42:20,180 --> 00:42:19,410 over there or not I'm sure many I'm sure 1065 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:20,190 if you can put yourself in that 1066 00:42:23,060 --> 00:42:21,690 situation now creepy that would have 1067 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:23,070 been to be out there not field after 1068 00:42:27,650 --> 00:42:26,130 dark know what's going on I there's a 1069 00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:27,660 drawing we tried to draw it didn't 1070 00:42:32,330 --> 00:42:29,730 belong much person essentially a local 1071 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:32,340 own walk let's go come to the trees so 1072 00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:33,690 this thing had definitely come down you 1073 00:42:38,900 --> 00:42:36,480 know question is how'd it crashed was 1074 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:38,910 this falling leaf motion due to it going 1075 00:42:43,550 --> 00:42:41,090 wrong in some way and was it descending 1076 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:43,560 not an accord or was it landing on 1077 00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:46,650 purpose that's left open to debate isn't 1078 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:50,609 it but it's certainly interesting so 1079 00:42:53,630 --> 00:42:51,810 yeah they're looking across these trees 1080 00:42:54,859 --> 00:42:53,640 and sitting there smoking away and then 1081 00:42:57,590 --> 00:42:54,869 wondering whether they're going to go 1082 00:42:59,000 --> 00:42:57,600 over there nobody there a better kind of 1083 00:42:59,870 --> 00:42:59,010 them decide they're going to do it 1084 00:43:02,270 --> 00:42:59,880 they're going to go and check what's 1085 00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:02,280 behind the trees and all of a sudden 1086 00:43:10,190 --> 00:43:05,280 this happened essentially will they see 1087 00:43:12,140 --> 00:43:10,200 is a line of about 10 or so figures come 1088 00:43:13,580 --> 00:43:12,150 out from the undergrowth in the 1089 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:13,590 direction of where this white light is 1090 00:43:17,330 --> 00:43:15,570 yeah he said they're almost alongside 1091 00:43:19,340 --> 00:43:17,340 one another but not in a dead straight 1092 00:43:20,510 --> 00:43:19,350 line but kind of in a rough line and 1093 00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:20,520 they appear to be wearing what look like 1094 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:23,040 hazmat suits are in white suits with 1095 00:43:29,390 --> 00:43:25,170 kind of proper mask so that sort of face 1096 00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:29,400 visor over the front and these figures 1097 00:43:32,330 --> 00:43:31,200 appear to be walking at marching across 1098 00:43:34,940 --> 00:43:32,340 the field almost like they're looking 1099 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:34,950 for something now thinking what know if 1100 00:43:38,990 --> 00:43:36,330 they're going hey you know we stumbled 1101 00:43:40,070 --> 00:43:39,000 into some sort of biological I'd break 1102 00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:40,080 or something you know they didn't know 1103 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:41,609 what was going on and the figure 1104 00:43:46,460 --> 00:43:43,770 suddenly looked human but this is the 1105 00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:46,470 vegetation they've stepped out from just 1106 00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:48,480 look far too dense for them to step out 1107 00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:50,160 so uniformly it was almost like they've 1108 00:43:55,340 --> 00:43:53,280 kind of wharfton essentially appeared 1109 00:43:56,270 --> 00:43:55,350 out of the trees but these figures are 1110 00:43:57,230 --> 00:43:56,280 kind of working 1111 00:43:58,580 --> 00:43:57,240 film they're just stunning they're 1112 00:44:00,620 --> 00:43:58,590 looking at them they're just going 1113 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:00,630 across the film there's what is 1114 00:44:06,050 --> 00:44:03,210 happening here about 30 seconds go by 1115 00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:06,060 and Ricky just without saying anything 1116 00:44:13,580 --> 00:44:10,800 just points of them and appears that 1117 00:44:15,710 --> 00:44:13,590 they noticed in pointing perhaps I don't 1118 00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:15,720 know but at that point one of the beings 1119 00:44:23,540 --> 00:44:17,760 are turns and basically looks straight 1120 00:44:24,830 --> 00:44:23,550 at them right and at that point but 1121 00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:24,840 suddenly get this image in a head 1122 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:26,730 immediately they can both see the bings 1123 00:44:30,650 --> 00:44:28,770 face but it's right up there in front of 1124 00:44:32,060 --> 00:44:30,660 them a few feet away they've clearly 1125 00:44:34,900 --> 00:44:32,070 hears the words and I do apologize my 1126 00:44:37,970 --> 00:44:34,910 French is it hears the words off in 1127 00:44:40,430 --> 00:44:37,980 his in his mind a telepathic 1128 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:40,440 communication and he sees the being very 1129 00:44:44,510 --> 00:44:42,570 very very negative very like you are not 1130 00:44:47,690 --> 00:44:44,520 supposed to be here type touch sensation 1131 00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:47,700 and the beings face he said it looked 1132 00:44:51,590 --> 00:44:48,960 rather humanoid but the eyes were 1133 00:44:53,390 --> 00:44:51,600 slightly bigger and it's faceboook blue 1134 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:53,400 but he said it maybe it was like a blue 1135 00:44:57,140 --> 00:44:54,810 visor and he was looking at it and had a 1136 00:44:59,150 --> 00:44:57,150 blue face because of the visor but 1137 00:45:01,370 --> 00:44:59,160 that's what he heard and needless to say 1138 00:45:03,110 --> 00:45:01,380 he turned and ran it didn't look what 1139 00:45:05,630 --> 00:45:03,120 was going on with Ricky he just turned 1140 00:45:07,550 --> 00:45:05,640 and leg dit he knew definitely wasn't 1141 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:07,560 supposed to be there runs right the way 1142 00:45:10,940 --> 00:45:09,090 back to the car at that point he 1143 00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:10,950 realizes the Ricky is also back at the 1144 00:45:15,620 --> 00:45:13,680 car Ricky immediately tells him when the 1145 00:45:17,870 --> 00:45:15,630 being looked at us I saw its face right 1146 00:45:21,620 --> 00:45:17,880 next to my face it said it said get out 1147 00:45:24,380 --> 00:45:21,630 go away to me so he'd heard different 1148 00:45:26,090 --> 00:45:24,390 words but both of them a sort of very 1149 00:45:28,310 --> 00:45:26,100 negative conversation it was almost like 1150 00:45:29,690 --> 00:45:28,320 their minds were interpreting it in two 1151 00:45:31,370 --> 00:45:29,700 different words you know but it was the 1152 00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:31,380 it was the conversation of sort of you 1153 00:45:36,260 --> 00:45:33,710 know you're not supposed to be here 1154 00:45:38,180 --> 00:45:36,270 absolutely stunning incident needless to 1155 00:45:40,250 --> 00:45:38,190 say they got into the cart and guides 1156 00:45:42,500 --> 00:45:40,260 are there days says he's never seen 1157 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:42,510 these things before since and he 1158 00:45:46,970 --> 00:45:44,970 believes that something went on there it 1159 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:46,980 doesn't know whether it was on purpose 1160 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:48,690 because it seems interesting you had all 1161 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:50,130 these contact experiences and then he 1162 00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:52,410 has this incident but it was almost like 1163 00:45:55,220 --> 00:45:54,000 something outside of his experiences 1164 00:45:57,170 --> 00:45:55,230 something they'd stumbled into by 1165 00:45:59,420 --> 00:45:57,180 mistake it definitely weren't welcome 1166 00:46:01,310 --> 00:45:59,430 there whatever was happening and of 1167 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:01,320 course the fact that is being and kind 1168 00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:03,090 of psychically appeared in front of both 1169 00:46:07,460 --> 00:46:05,520 their faces and shows that it clearly 1170 00:46:08,750 --> 00:46:07,470 wasn't a sort of standard you 1171 00:46:12,109 --> 00:46:08,760 you know they certainly didn't appear to 1172 00:46:14,599 --> 00:46:12,119 be human absolutely stunning I've got 1173 00:46:18,380 --> 00:46:14,609 some testimony from Ricky Here I am I 1174 00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:18,390 met Ricky only i think was last year 1175 00:46:22,910 --> 00:46:20,400 early last year i went down to see the 1176 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:22,920 band and Ricky spent a lot of time and 1177 00:46:26,330 --> 00:46:24,330 probably spin across Australia for a 1178 00:46:27,770 --> 00:46:26,340 while but say he was back in the UK and 1179 00:46:29,870 --> 00:46:27,780 he come to see the group and while he 1180 00:46:31,310 --> 00:46:29,880 was there I without any warning or 1181 00:46:33,050 --> 00:46:31,320 anything and I just pulled into one side 1182 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:33,060 and I said could ask you some questions 1183 00:46:37,339 --> 00:46:34,770 about some of the experiences that 1184 00:46:39,020 --> 00:46:37,349 you've been involved in Israel yeah so 1185 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:39,030 we go we go into the van i'll start you 1186 00:46:44,510 --> 00:46:41,970 know interviewing essentially and about 1187 00:46:46,370 --> 00:46:44,520 hears testimony and it fits extremely 1188 00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:46,380 closely with it with what dost are we in 1189 00:46:50,660 --> 00:46:48,480 fact for the letter i would say this is 1190 00:46:52,609 --> 00:46:50,670 his testimony in the sky was a big 1191 00:46:55,220 --> 00:46:52,619 glowing orb falling slowly from the sky 1192 00:46:56,510 --> 00:46:55,230 side to side like a leaf would fill it 1193 00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:56,520 looked like it was landing a couple of 1194 00:47:01,490 --> 00:46:58,290 fields over from the road so we decided 1195 00:47:03,500 --> 00:47:01,500 to stop and investigate we entered one 1196 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:03,510 field and looked around and could see 1197 00:47:07,010 --> 00:47:05,490 the orders in the next field over but 1198 00:47:08,930 --> 00:47:07,020 the trees and bushes were far too dense 1199 00:47:11,690 --> 00:47:08,940 to make it through to it we stood and 1200 00:47:13,130 --> 00:47:11,700 just watched a while I looked across the 1201 00:47:15,859 --> 00:47:13,140 field and saw about nine year monoid 1202 00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:15,869 beings about 30 to 40 yards away in some 1203 00:47:21,950 --> 00:47:17,609 kind of white suits walking across the 1204 00:47:23,750 --> 00:47:21,960 field in single line 107 looked at us I 1205 00:47:25,730 --> 00:47:23,760 felt like he was right in front of my 1206 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:25,740 face and then as clear as anything I 1207 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:27,570 hear a voice in my head saying get out 1208 00:47:32,510 --> 00:47:30,690 go away I turned to run away back to the 1209 00:47:34,550 --> 00:47:32,520 trees and towards the car at the same 1210 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:34,560 moment Dave did the same thing so you 1211 00:47:38,930 --> 00:47:35,970 can see there it's a direct correlation 1212 00:47:41,150 --> 00:47:38,940 with what dave has told us I certainly 1213 00:47:43,370 --> 00:47:41,160 believe the this incident took place of 1214 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:43,380 speaking with numerous occasions you can 1215 00:47:47,870 --> 00:47:45,450 say yes it's just testimonial but in 1216 00:47:49,609 --> 00:47:47,880 both in most UFO innocence and contact 1217 00:47:51,530 --> 00:47:49,619 cases that's all we've got to go on 1218 00:47:53,930 --> 00:47:51,540 testimonial but believe me when i say 1219 00:47:56,450 --> 00:47:53,940 i've spoken with day for many many hours 1220 00:47:58,099 --> 00:47:56,460 about his experiences and whenever I ask 1221 00:48:00,050 --> 00:47:58,109 him a question I get the answer back 1222 00:48:01,930 --> 00:48:00,060 like that it's not like he's coming up 1223 00:48:04,579 --> 00:48:01,940 with another part of the story 1224 00:48:06,050 --> 00:48:04,589 everything is told me as never it's 1225 00:48:07,790 --> 00:48:06,060 never wavered it's always it's always 1226 00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:07,800 exactly the same I certainly believe is 1227 00:48:13,070 --> 00:48:11,040 talking about a real instrument here so 1228 00:48:14,780 --> 00:48:13,080 I think at this point is probably a good 1229 00:48:15,859 --> 00:48:14,790 chance to kind of have a break and grab